Between The Lines
A few months ago my mother-in-law, hereafter known as la suegra, had a bit of a health scare. Luckily, everything turned out alright for her. It was more of a mobility issue; bad arthritis of the knees. My wife and I both work, and my suegra has been the foundation that allows both of us to work full time: she watches our children during the day. During her flare up she couldn’t watch our kids for a few weeks. It was a temporary inconvenience to drive my kids to my parents house in Marin county each day, an extra 30-40 miles tacked into my commute, but what a wake up call it was for how convenient my current situation was. During this time we started calling around and making visits to day care centers in our city and even though we had a general idea of the cost, the prices floored us.
My so-called path to FIRE hinges directly on who watches my kids and how much they charge. No matter how much strategical effort and detail I put into my FI plan and forecasted FI number, it nearly took some arthritis to ricochet my FI plan–dare I say life–off course and set off a chain of events to spin me into a new direction.
This thought was a shot across the bow to my dreams of early retirement and full-time travel. I realized, not for the first time, I have nearly no control over the timing of early retirement. So much of it hinges on the actions of others and my subsequent reaction to the uncontrollable. And it’s not just early retirement, but everything in my universe I have no control over. Every morning when I get into my truck and head out onto the freeways to commute I put my life at the mercy of strangers zipping along at high speeds beside me. My income is at the mercy of a bean counter saying I fit into the budget. My work is at the mercy of the economy. Same goes for my health and the health of those I love.
Anyway, I’m quite lucky and fortunate to be where I am due to the help of others. Nobody can properly say they’ve achieved FI alone…like raising kids it takes a village, if I may use the worn and tattered phrase. I feel as though I’m winning two fronts when it comes to my children’s upbringing. We have the peace of mind of family watching our kids and our kids get a healthy dose of Latino culture.
For anyone pursuing FI with kids, childcare is part of the program, an element that can’t be looked at through a pure fiscal lens. The cheapest option is probably not the best option when it comes to paying for the care of offspring. Here’s a little bit about how we make do and why I feel fortunate.
Prior to my suegra watching my daughters, we took our oldest to one of those professional daycare centers when she was 2. We liked this place. Though it came with a hefty bill. The younger the kids are, the more expensive child care is. The security was top notch, almost jail like, with one of those airlock type vestibules at the entrance, fingerprint scanners, and cameras in every corner. The classroom settings helped our daughter socialize and start to learn her basic letters and shapes at an early age. The kids were separated out into classrooms divided up by age. And each classroom had one or two teachers. We received daily reports when we picked her up, what she ate, what she did.
Pretty good system if you ask me.
When daughter number 2, came around in 2017, it so happened that my suegra was thinking about retiring. She was a house cleaner and years of working had taken its toll on her knees and body. The house cleaning work wasn’t as steady as it had been in years past. Her clients began to age and move to nursing homes…or die.
My wife and her mother were able to make an arrangement that satisfied both of our needs. My suegra would be able to stop working sooner and get paid a bit more than she was as a cleaner. Of course, at first, she didn’t want the money, but let’s be honest, watching kids is work, whether they are grandchildren or not.
So we pay my suegra about half what we would have paid for 2 kids at that fancy daycare and we buy her groceries. Food for the kids and staple items for her. With 2 kids in professional daycare, it would be more than my home mortgage a month. In our case it would be around $2500 a month for chilcare.
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The best benefit of this arrangement, after the peace of mind of having family watch our kids, is that my suegra speaks more Spanish than English. She spent half her life in El Salvador, and her house and the way she runs it is steeped in that culture. Vegetables and fruit trees out back, a cup of water on top of the refrigerator, candles burning on the counters, Telemundo on tv, beans steadfast on the stove. I see this as a fantastic benefit for my kids. Part of the Latino culture of speaking Spanish wouldn’t be lost on my children the way it was for me, or at least the way it felt lost for me growing up.
My parents were both born in the United States and speak better English than Spanish, though English is both my parent’s 2nd language. And they never taught me or my brothers to speak Spanish.
Things were different for my folks when they grew up. Both of them were born here in the ’50s and graduated high school in the early ’70s. It was a very bad thing to speak Spanish back then. My father would get suspended from school for speaking Spanish with his friends if a teacher overheard.
My mother’s father forbid that Spanish be spoken in their household. The mindset back then, was that Spanish would only hold you back or get you in trouble. This led to much of my family quickly trying to extinguish their culture in order to fit in…probably not dissimilar to what immigrants from across the oceans did in other decades.
It’s what you do in America. You fit in.
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Times have changed. Now speaking Spanish is an asset. Parents pay to have their children immersed in another language at school. It’s easier to get a job if you speak a second language. And here in California, Spanish really is the second language of the state. The United States having more Spanish speakers than Spain.
It’s assumed, everywhere I go, because of my looks, that I speak Spanish. I actually grew up quite embarrassed that I couldn’t speak Spanish well. I felt as though I were somehow letting down my culture, family, and the expectations of others. To top it off, some Latinos look down upon me in thinly veiled disdain. There’s even a Spanish word they have for people like me: an Americanized Latino, called “pocho”, which translated means rotten fruit.
My grandparents didn’t like that I didn’t speak Spanish either. Not to mention my youthful unwillingness to eat a jalapeño with my meals or try some menudo as a picky eating kid; of course, now I eat everything under the sun. But back then it was like an insult to my grandparents that I didn’t like their hardcore Mexican food.
“Come on, are you Mexican or not? Why don’t you want to eat this?” My grandfather would often ask me jokingly.
He may have been joking, but it really did make me question my cultural identity. I’m only one generation away from being born in Mexico and probably living a very rough life on a ranch. Luckily, I was born here, an American, so why would I question my lack of Mexican-ness?
I’ve always been sort of stuck in the middle because of this. Not Mexican enough according to those who would call me pocho and make fun of my Spanish. And not American enough for others who take one look at me and make a conclusion.
On the job site as a carpenter, I’ve felt this gray area between cultures acutely. But with the bad comes some good. I can trace back my start in leadership to translating for management from English to Spanish. This helped me get used to telling people older than me what to do, and also made me comfortable dealing with the haters who looked just like me, but would stab me in the back the first chance they could because I spoke flawless English.
Even now I walk between worlds with ease. Being in the office there are times when I feel out of place among the nearly all college graduates who habituate the office side of construction. When talk comes up about fraternities and college days, I don’t have much to say. It reminds me of the obscured barrier I would feel working on Mexican crews with not much to say because Spanish isn’t my first language. More importantly, I’ve been able to benefit from my chameleon status, shifting back and forth from the rough field side to the white-collar office side with ease. Which I think benefits my leadership style, especially since there are many more foreman leaders on the job who live in this world between the lines as I do.
When I go pick up my kids these days from my suegra’s house, beans are cooking on the stove. They are too aware of the story of La Llorona and the cucuy who stalks the shadows. And while they don’t speak Spanish, they understand it. My oldest daughter surprises me all the time by using Spanish words, and it fills my heart to hear her speak Spanish; because I never could at her age. I hope that one day she won’t feel a sense of embarrassment when put in a situation where it’s expected she speak Spanish as I felt many times growing up.
I speak Spanish fluently…now. Years of working as a carpenter with the paisa’s, and living in my suegra’s house for a year while we saved up to take a gap year in my 20’s, built upon the language base I had. Spending months backpacking in Latin America was the cherry on top of my bilingual success.
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The cost of childcare is an inevitable burden for parents who have dual incomes either by choice or necessity. I’m really very fortunate that my wife and I both work by choice. We could live off one of our incomes if it came to it. But that would also snuff out the flames of our FIRE pursuit a bit.
After the recent health scare for my suegra and the possibility of paying the going rate of childcare, I’ve realized that my FI date of 2026 hinges almost entirely on having low cost childcare. To pay $2,500 a month on childcare would be tough to digest…as this would be the cost we’d pay for two kids at a professional place
Of course, if it came to my suegra’s well being we’d take our kids elsewhere in a heartbeat. I’m not a heartless miser only thinking of my money.
It’s nice (and scary) to sometimes stop and focus on how thinly strung together our current life is. How delicate each connection is. And how it could all change in a moment. Cue being grateful. To look over my life and try to find any certain path to my current position would be delusional thinking. Sure I can lie to myself and say I had a plan to own a home, have a wife and kids, a specific title at work…but it would be the same as believing the daily horoscope’s vague assessment of my life.
Things have turned out well and I’m grateful for where I’ve ended up despite the chaos of my past and the uncertainty of the future. In the end, my thoughts are something I have some control over…most of the time.
What about you? How do you control the uncontrollables…if that’s even possible. Maybe a better question is how do you make peace with the lack control we have over our universe?
12 thoughts on “Between The Lines”
i think you’re spot on to feel gratitude for extended family living relatively close. sure, the financial reason is a nice bonus but there is so much value in your kids having that relationship with their grandparents.
i used to stay with my great grandmother all the time in my teens. life in my house was a little high strung and i was a chilled out kid. grandma’s house was much more relaxed and she seemed glad for the company. it really was a win/win.
that’s an interesting point you bring up about being in between cultures. at least you’re not a flatlander!
Gratitude is one of the keys to being happy for me. It’s hard to stop and just be happy for what I have sometimes. I agree yeah the relationship for my kids and their grandparents is priceless. I was never close to mine so I can appreciate it.
At least I’m not a flatlander!!! You have me laughing out loud! I think anyone living in American is or has been between cultures at some point in their lives.
Your situation is the perfect example of how change happens. Someone can have a 10, 5 or even only 2 year horizon and then be shocked how much change happens in only one year. I was kind of in the same boat as you. When we were having trouble having kids, I had kind of moved on and was like, alright, that’s life, now I’ll push for FI in a few years without starting a family. Then a year later the wife and I keep talking and decided on the foster to adopt path with her leaving work and only living off a single income. My few year path turned into maybe 10 years…. hahaha. I think having gratitude and flexibility are two great assets. People don’t take into account how much their values might change, or wants, desires, whatever you want to call it. Try to be as happy as you can in the moment and allow room to adapt and you’ll be just fine. It’s when we set these plans in stone, that we might be setting ourselves up for future failure.
Hopefully that childcare works out. It’s crazy the cost – basically having a second mortgage to raise a child. There’s pretty much three options, 1) you’re lucking and have family that can help, 2) pay for daycare or 3) one spouse stays home and you eat that salary. We’re going with #3 right now and see how it goes. But it’s all just tradeoffs. As you know, your personal situation will dictate the best route to go.
Man you sum it up pretty good: “It’s when we set these plans in stone, that we might be setting ourselves up for future failure.” How true is that statement! I like that viewpoint. It has to be acknowledged at some point down the road. Really it’s just a state of mind, but way easier said than done. Yes, so much does change over time. And living with other people, so do their wants. The ability to adapt, like you say, is the key. What makes it so tough, for me at least, and from a FIRE viewpoint: is that I spent so much time creating a “fool proof” conservative plan crunching numbers, that the human element wasn’t really considered.
Yeah, the cost is insane for childcare. It pretty much is a second mortgage lol. You’re right about the 3 options, so true. And it’s definitely not a one-size-fits-all. I think you’re picking a solid option in #3. For those of us raising kids, we know going into it there’s going to be an added cost…another good reason to FI is that the cost of childcare, for someone paying it, suddenly goes away. Other than childcare, having kids isn’t too expensive–from my experience anyway–mine are also still pretty young.
Really thoughtful comment. Thanks for stoppingby.
I don’t think you really can prepare for sudden, unexpected changes to life (hello COVID-19). All you really can do is have an adaptable mindset, be ready to adjust as necessary. So whatever the next black swan is, cant really be prepared for because it’s inherently unknowable.
It’s scary to admit but a lot of our life is a delicate balance that one job loss or illness could totally disrupt. If anything, this is an excellent argument for FIRE. Even if you absolutely love your job or don’t want to retire early, you could still be blindsided by an illness or need to care for family. Better to be put into that situation with no debt and a healthy amount of investments, than tons of credit card debt one paycheck away from being broke.
Hope your suegra is doing well, eventually if you have to care for her, your investments will take care of themselves with compounding.
That’s right. I’ve started to see that most of my moves in life are just reactionary no matter how much I want to see myself as being a proactive person. I can only choose avenues available open to me at any given moment. Maybe the only person that has complete control over their lives is some mountain man living way off the grid or a sailor out in the middle of the ocean. But even then, the weather can’t be controlled. And you’re right, more the reason to FIRE and have a nice financial backstop to absorb the blows.
Thanks yeah. She’s much better. Got a cortisone shot and it seems to have made it go away for the time being. Appreciate you stopping by to comment!
Nice one, Noel! I’m always just shocked by the outlandishly insane cost of childcare. It just defies belief. To have your suegra involved is awesome. And the cultural benefits even more so. That’s definitely a win-win!
As for me, I do my best to anticipate unfavorable things in life and prepare accordingly. That’s pretty much all one can do. I still consistently get my ass knocked around by life’s curve balls, but that’s just a function of living and growing.
Thanks Mr Fate. Child care costs were definitely something we shrugged off prior to getting slapped in the face by it. Somehow I used to think I could find a deal or the pricy stories were from fancy new age places…but once I became a parent I realized I didn’t want to go cheap on who watched my kid.
You’re right I’m so lucky to have family helping me out along the way. The culture and family aspect is huge and something I take for granted at times. I like that, it really is a function of living to get knocked in your ass. You’re probably not doing anything worth noting if you arent getting knocked around a bit.
Thanks for reading and commenting! I appreciate it
What a fascinating story of your background, especially your parents and how things have changed. I’m glad you learned Spanish and encourage your girls to learn it. Even though they’re American, it’s great to have connections to ancestral roots and and to understand cultural traditions. I still wish I’d had my grandparents closer while growing up so I could’ve learned more Italian language and cooking skills. But I can’t change that. They’re gone now. Your girls are lucky!
Day care sounds great, but your arrangement is far better and invaluable. What they gain from their grandma is priceless, no matter what the fancy day cares offer. I hope it continues for all of you, not just for financial reasons but for what it gives you all.
Anyway, I agree that we don’t have full control over our FI dates. We are all beholden to what fate holds for us. All we can do is devise a plan and try to stick to it and hope for the best. You’ll get to FI regardless because of your choices. Could be earlier, could be later. We’re all at the mercy of the market too. But I hope things work out with your childcare!
Thanks. Yes, it is nice to have some connection back to where and what the generations of your family have done before you came into the world. The more I think about it, really anyone in America is touched by cultural transition, it happened somewhere down the line. And if it happened years ago, we’re surrounded by people who are “living in both worlds” every day. My girls are lucky. I was never close with my grandparents in the way they are.
I agree. There’s a peace of mind knowing that my family is watching my kids. Some daycares a great, like you say, but they can never replicate love. Yep, those of us chasing FIRE are definitely at the mercy of the market. I think maybe the steps taken to pursue FI prepares us better than the average non saving type. There’s a built in safety net having money stocked away and just being aware of the cash flow. Thank you!
Interesting thoughts on bridging cultures and childcare, Noel. It’s good to see you embrace your ‘chameleon’ status, and take advantage of your unique situation where it can work. And I’m sure your kids will appreciate the bits of culture they inherited from la suegra.
Regarding childcare costs, yikes. As you see in my updates, we pay almost $3,000 per month for our two. Because of the timing of my daughter’s birthday, she won’t enter kindergarten for another 2 years, right before she turns 6. I’m constantly debating whether it makes sense to work full time just to split my pay between taxes and childcare. If my income was closer to the US median income, I’d certainly be a stay-at-home dad. It is nice to have some family help in this department!
Yeah, the chameleon status has definitely helped me more than hurt me in my situation. I think people who are in my situation (or any situation for that matter) have a choice on if they will let what makes you “different” help you or be a reason/excuse to hold you back. My kids are already enjoying it, looking back I hope they have fond memories of spending time with her during the day. She’s really their second mom, if you will, changing diapers in the beginning to feeding and entertaining them.
I cringe when I see your childcare costs! It’s a steep bill and the only way around it comes with altering your way of life, as you say, becoming a stay at home. My oldest also has a late birthday. I guess one of the benefits of using legit childcare is being able to get a tax break, but I know, this doesn’t come close to offsetting the cost. I know what you mean about median income…those corporate handcuffs are real.